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City’s plan for Boardwalk leaves just four blocks of wood

The Brooklyn Paper

The city is moving ahead with a plan to remove the wood from virtually all of Brooklyn’s famous Riegelmann Boardwalk, replacing it with cement or a synthetic material along all but a tiny stretch of the two-and-a-half-mile beachfront walkway.

The Parks Department, which is responsible for the nearly 90-year-old walkers’ paradise, will first replace wood with concrete on a long stretch of the Boardwalk between Coney Island Avenue and Brighton 15th Street in Brighton Beach, despite opposition from residents and Community Board 13.

The plan is expected to be approved by the Public Design Commission later this month — and likely lead to the paving of the rest of the Boardwalk, part of a long-stated city goal of replacing the costlier wood from Manhattan Beach to Sea Gate, except for a four-block section in the historic amusement district between W. 15th and W. 10th streets.

Opponents are furious.

“The Boardwalk is historic,” said Brighton Beach resident Ida Sanoff, who opposes a concrete makeover. “It’s not a sidewalk.”

That might not be true for long, however.

Last year, the city installed two small sections of concrete to test the material, as preparation for a larger $30-million renovation to the aging, 2.7-mile Boardwalk, which opened in 1923.

Parks spokeswoman Meghan Lalor said concrete was chosen because it’s sturdier — and, at $90 per square foot, it’s about $40 per foot cheaper than replacing the Boardwalk’s worn-down planks with real wood.

But last month, critics pointed out that the slabs were already starting to crack after just one year of use.

“Concrete might be the cheapest solution, but it’s not the best one,” said Todd Dobrin, president of Friends of the Boardwalk. “It isn’t the end-all be-all with this project.”

Small cracks are indeed visible in the concrete, but city officials said there’s no cause for alarm.

“There are minor hairline cracks, which are not structural in nature and pose no safety issues,” said Lalor, the Parks Department spokeswoman.

Reader Feedback

WTF from Coney Island says:
Where the 99% of people live, they get sidewalk
Where the top 1% live, they get boardwalk.
Oct. 12, 2011, 7:56 am
Boardwalk from sidewalk says:
Occupy Wallstreet should Occupy the Boardwalk
Oct. 12, 2011, 8:04 am
bengee from Coney says:
Which one off the PDC and Parks Dept. buddies is getting the contract for the cement.Has any body asked yet.I wonder will it be a bid contract or do they already have one off there friends picked out.
Oct. 12, 2011, 8:35 am
Hector from PH says:
Concrete cracks when it comes in contact with salt.

http://www.askthebuilder.com/008_Deicing_Salts_And_Concrete.shtml

The link is just one of many available. Placing a concrete sidewalk so close to the salt water beech is a bad idea. It may cost 40 less to install but will end up in a short time, a few short years, looking horrible. The city planners should really do some thinking on this cost savings. I can tell you from first hand experience concrete near ocean waters in a frost zone is a bad idea. They city will spend more on repairs and maintenance in the long run then in up front replacement of the wooden planks.

BAD IDEA!
Oct. 12, 2011, 9:21 am
UmadBro? from wat says:
Who cares? I'm all for them ripping Coney Island up and rebuilding everything, the place has been a dump for years. They can start by knocking down those project buildings. It would be nice to have a half way decent entertainment district to bring our kids during the warmer months.
Oct. 12, 2011, 9:24 am
Mike from GOP says:
That's a great socialistic idea UmadBro? Let the government take down private businesses and rebuild disneyland on the beach. The place looks like $hit, you're right. Get rid of the projects and build condos. But you're missing the point about the boardwalk. If they use concrete, the place will still look like ——. So you should care, since you'll have to pay for it, and look at the losy work with your kiddies. They'll ask, hey why does this place look so crappy? You can say, because this is what happens when the government makes a bad decisions with my tax dollars.
Aren't they going to fix it? No, because they spent all the money on disneyland. Now get on the ride! Hurry up!
Oct. 12, 2011, 9:49 am
UmadBro from wat says:
Look at this moron get worked up over concrete.
Oct. 12, 2011, 9:57 am
Mike from GOP says:
The Pot calling the Kettle black.
Oct. 12, 2011, 10:45 am
UmadBro? from wat says:
You don't need to capitalize p in pot or the k in kettle.
Oct. 12, 2011, 10:51 am
Mike from GOP says:
What are you, an English teacher? Thanks for the lesson.
Oct. 12, 2011, 10:53 am
jerry from brighton beach says:
Don't forget it will look just great when the graffiti artists start using the sidewalk as a canvas.
Oct. 12, 2011, 10:53 am
UmadBro? from wat says:
It really is no problem at all Mike. Bearing in mind your apparent disabilities, I don't expect all that much from you. I am only here to help.
Oct. 12, 2011, 10:59 am
Mike from GOP says:
That is rather funny UmadBro! Because your username screams douchebag! Actually, it screams daddy douchebag.
Oct. 12, 2011, 11:05 am
UmadBro? from wat says:
“daddy douchebag” – Brilliant stuff there Mike, you could have been a poet.

The fact that you're even able to work a computer is an accomplishment you can be proud of. You’re a credit to disabled Americans everywhere.
Oct. 12, 2011, 11:12 am
Ed from Park Slop says:
I went to the Coney Island boardwalk recently and saw that stretch of "sidewalk" replacement. When they said they were going to do this they said it would look very much like the real boardwalk. It looks like concrete with a stamp of wooden planks. It looks ridiculous.
Oct. 12, 2011, 11:25 am
Mike from GOP says:
That's good stuff. Wow! You gave me $hit over wasted tax dollars on concrete, and now you're on here getting worked up over grammar.

Brilliant!

Which brings me back to what I said before.

The Pot calling the Kettle black. (with all it's incorrect grammar)

You mad Brother? You're so ironic "UmadBro?" Clever incorrect use of grammar. I like it.
Oct. 12, 2011, 11:28 am
UmadBro? from wat says:
Oh Mike, your poetic way with words has inspired me to write you a haiku.

mike:
an empty head
cold as concrete
misuses the word irony
Oct. 12, 2011, 11:46 am
Mike from GOP says:
Thank you, I'm going to hang it in my office! It is absolutely Brilliant! A haiku from daddy douchebag. I'll hand it up next to my GED.

Jetzt kann ich al meine Verwante und Freunde zeigen was Daddy Douchebag mir geschenkt hat. So toll!

Danke! Du hast meinen Tag verbessert und meinen leben verändert.
Oct. 12, 2011, 11:59 am
UmadBro? from wat says:
I think you intended to write "hang it up next to my GED"

Anyway, I am always glad to have improved a simpleton’s day. I would be honored if you shared my little poem with your family and friends! If they're related to you I imagine they'll find it very impressive.

It is dullards such as you Mike that keep me posting.
Oct. 12, 2011, 12:14 pm
Mike from GOP says:
I rather enjoy the fact that you are so worked up over grammar. I think you assume I actually care. Lol! I do enjoy your candor. It's refreshing! Keep posting, the braggarts are counting on you.

Danke!
Oct. 12, 2011, 12:36 pm
UmadBro? from wat says:
"I do enjoy your candor"
"the braggarts are counting on you."

You’ve grown so much over the course of this thread. From awe inspiring classics like “daddy douche” to using words like “candor” and “braggart”, I’m so proud of you! They must be teaching people how to use the thesaurus and spell check in G.E.D. programs now.

Problem?
Oct. 12, 2011, 12:54 pm
Mike from GOP says:
You're still so worked up! hahahahaha!

I love it!
Oct. 12, 2011, 12:55 pm
UmadBro? from wat says:
http://imgur.com/T4Xyq

U mad bro?
Oct. 12, 2011, 1:01 pm
Mike from GOP says:
Wink. You go!
Oct. 12, 2011, 1:13 pm
Justine Swartz from Brooklyn Heights says:
The 'Boardwalk' will become a highly trafficked private roadway for Police and Parks Department vehicles. It doesn't matter what the People want or need.
Oct. 12, 2011, 3:14 pm
imnewhere from park slope says:
this was hysterical. Thank you Mike and Umad, I'm still laughing.
Oct. 12, 2011, 9:15 pm
Boggy from Bath Beach says:
This is news? They started doing this a year ago, people! They're also evicting Ruby's Bar, Cha-Cha's, The Grill House, The Souvenier Shop and Paul's Daughter, most of whom have been on the boardwalk for over 40 years, at the end of October. Next year, that stretch of boaredwalk will be covered in generic eurotrash cafes to give the area a more european feel to better fit in with Central Amusements International's "vision of Coney Island". You can thank CAI for also ruining the Cyclone by eliminating re-rides.
Oct. 13, 2011, 7:55 pm
bklyngal from Kensington says:
It seems to me that as this is a historic site it shoud be desgnated as such. That would prevent - or at least temporarily halt- the boardwalk relacement until it gets determined whether or not it gets desigated as such. Community activists in the area should look into this possibility.
Oct. 14, 2011, 9:39 am
Boardwalker from Flatbush says:
I love Coney Island, and I hope that the bars, shops etc are preserved, but honestly, I wouldn't mind a different material for the boardwalk. Even on newer portions, I have tripped on uneven boards more times than my pride wants me to admit. I've also had long pants get stuck on protruding nails, which is a bit awkward. Perhaps concrete isn't the solution, but the wood definitely seems to not be the safest solution (though it is classic).
Oct. 14, 2011, 11:32 am
jay from none says:
Concrete at $90 per square foot. Why not $100 ?

Must be a Union job ?
Oct. 15, 2011, 10:49 am
josef from downtown brooklyn says:
funniest comment thread i've ever seen ever on this paper's site so far.

amazed anyone in bklyn would openly admit to being a GOPosaur. doesn't mike know they're supposed to be extinct?
Nov. 8, 2011, 12:45 pm
josef from downtown brooklyn says:
funniest comment thread i've ever seen ever on this paper's site so far.

amazed anyone in bklyn would openly admit to being a GOPosaur. doesn't mike know they're supposed to be extinct?
Nov. 8, 2011, 12:45 pm
Will from Midwood says:
It's like they just don't care. The planks are nice. The concrete looks awful. Who are these people that are slowly but surely replacing everything nice with cheap garbage and then patting themselves on the back. Sad.
Feb. 1, 1:45 pm

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